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	<title>Comments on: Revo: like turkeys voting for Christmas</title>
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	<description>Ideas for revolution</description>
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		<title>By: daistation</title>
		<link>http://csukblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/revo-like-turkeys-voting-for-christmas/#comment-1190</link>
		<dc:creator>daistation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 21:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Revo have now made clear that they were wrong to move this motion. But they don&#039;t mention who pointed this out. And why did it take them so long to realise their mistake? Motions have to be in ages before conference. Did they not collectively discuss their intervention?

http://www.worldrevolution.org.uk/index.php?id=24,817,0,0,1,0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Revo have now made clear that they were wrong to move this motion. But they don&#8217;t mention who pointed this out. And why did it take them so long to realise their mistake? Motions have to be in ages before conference. Did they not collectively discuss their intervention?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.worldrevolution.org.uk/index.php?id=24,817,0,0,1,0" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldrevolution.org.uk/index.php?id=24,817,0,0,1,0</a></p>
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		<title>By: Wladek</title>
		<link>http://csukblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/revo-like-turkeys-voting-for-christmas/#comment-1125</link>
		<dc:creator>Wladek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I to understand that a member of the LFI youth group (&quot;REVOLUTION&quot;) proposed a motion at the NUS conference calling for a state ban of fascist web sites? 

As you might have heard, the LFI recently expelled a member from its youth group for running for an office in the NUS, which was somehow against &quot;Revo’s agreed platform in the student movement”. (And this bureaucratic expulsion led to several more resignations.) 

They never raised any political criticism&#039;s of the comrade&#039;s election platform in the NUS - it was merely a formal question. But apparently they have no problem with members of their youth group supporting increased powers for the bourgeois state. The important thing is that they don&#039;t question the LFI&#039;s bureaucratic rule in its youth group! 

You can read more about the expulsion here: 
http://www.revolution.int.tf/?p=183&amp;language=en</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I to understand that a member of the LFI youth group (&#8220;REVOLUTION&#8221;) proposed a motion at the NUS conference calling for a state ban of fascist web sites? </p>
<p>As you might have heard, the LFI recently expelled a member from its youth group for running for an office in the NUS, which was somehow against &#8220;Revo’s agreed platform in the student movement”. (And this bureaucratic expulsion led to several more resignations.) </p>
<p>They never raised any political criticism&#8217;s of the comrade&#8217;s election platform in the NUS &#8211; it was merely a formal question. But apparently they have no problem with members of their youth group supporting increased powers for the bourgeois state. The important thing is that they don&#8217;t question the LFI&#8217;s bureaucratic rule in its youth group! </p>
<p>You can read more about the expulsion here:<br />
<a href="http://www.revolution.int.tf/?p=183&amp;language=en" rel="nofollow">http://www.revolution.int.tf/?p=183&amp;language=en</a></p>
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		<title>By: Duncan Money</title>
		<link>http://csukblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/revo-like-turkeys-voting-for-christmas/#comment-1122</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Redwatch is a serious threat&lt;/i&gt;

No, no, no, don&#039;t be silly.

This article is a welcome departure from dogmatic anti-fascism but Redwatch is a joke and it relies almost entirely on media publicity to maintain its reputation as a group of big, scary Nazi psychopaths. Regrettably, this has been something the left has been keen to play along with.

The simple truth is that the far right no longer has the capacity, or the stomach, to carry out a strategy of confrontation and violence. If we compare the situation now, with a couple of attacks linked to Redwatch in seven years, to what happened when the first ‘Redwatch’ hit lists were circulated in Combat 18 magazine issues one and two, any idea that the modern incarnation of Redwatch represents some sort of threat is laughable.

People featured on Redwatch are more likely to be run over by a bus then experience fascist violence.

However, you are entirely to note that asking for the state to increase its coercive powers is a painfully stupid thing to do if we are in the business of opposing the state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Redwatch is a serious threat</i></p>
<p>No, no, no, don&#8217;t be silly.</p>
<p>This article is a welcome departure from dogmatic anti-fascism but Redwatch is a joke and it relies almost entirely on media publicity to maintain its reputation as a group of big, scary Nazi psychopaths. Regrettably, this has been something the left has been keen to play along with.</p>
<p>The simple truth is that the far right no longer has the capacity, or the stomach, to carry out a strategy of confrontation and violence. If we compare the situation now, with a couple of attacks linked to Redwatch in seven years, to what happened when the first ‘Redwatch’ hit lists were circulated in Combat 18 magazine issues one and two, any idea that the modern incarnation of Redwatch represents some sort of threat is laughable.</p>
<p>People featured on Redwatch are more likely to be run over by a bus then experience fascist violence.</p>
<p>However, you are entirely to note that asking for the state to increase its coercive powers is a painfully stupid thing to do if we are in the business of opposing the state.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
		<link>http://csukblog.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/revo-like-turkeys-voting-for-christmas/#comment-1108</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hear hear!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hear hear!</p>
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